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【深夜档】貌似开始恐慌了。

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不过,我看twitter上的日本友人们都淡定的很啊……难道说我一直在和bot们聊天?
韩国搜狗……逻辑上就可以判断是假新闻的说。
前礼拜买的Steins;Gate,刚刚送到没几天就震了……资料集就撤单吧,别给人家添麻烦了。

谣言什么的,最讨厌了~
zhangtangyao 发表于 2011/3/17 1:58:00

从那些网站里宅们的反应来看,确实非常淡定,淡定得令人发指,很难想象在很多媒体所提及的环境和事态下他们怎么淡定到这地步的。

所以现在我们也先淡定一下吧……
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    “レンちゃんの為に………”
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    恩 韩国派出的搜救队 把狗给丢了的事情貌似是真的 我们班里都传很久了 只能说这些搜救队的训练还不到位 韩国不把搜救当回事 只是意思意思 昨天看电视上说日本貌似还有180多号人在核电站 不过好想都要撤退的 中国方面为日本提供1万吨的石油什么的 日本那边现在还是相当的缺少资源啊 不过话说回来 自卫队如果是这样的话 还真是不够格啊 军人的天职是服从命令 怎么能说撤就撤呢 胆小的话就不要去当军人啊 国家需要的时候就应该说上就上啊 他们的背后是人民 他们都不玩了 人民怎么办?国家怎么办?一整就切腹自杀 怎么就不敢去堵核电站呢。。。
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    唉!我以前在部队的时候真是高看日本自卫队了,把这种武装力量当敌人真是够丢人的……

    以后建核电站可不可以在机组下面事先挖好一个深井,深度100米以上,井壁使用数米厚的混凝土加固,加固级别要远超陆基弹道导弹发射井,井底事先铺好足量的硼砂、铅块、白云石、粘土之类的东西,反应堆就悬空坐落在井上,由爆破螺栓固定。一旦出事,直接启动爆破螺栓,将反应堆整个降至井底,然后浇筑水泥等覆盖物掩埋。不知道如果这样设计会不会好一些?
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      [FLY]欢迎大家光临罐头馆……这里有美丽的……永不消逝的金属光泽……漫天飞舞的炮弹正等待着大家的到来……[/FLY]
      星之梦中篇同人文《命运之路》←点击阅读
      [MOVE]另:新作《AIP》锐意创作中……超级大作《Nuclearism~核之梦~》无限期拖延中……[/MOVE]
      请阅读完《命运之路》的朋友不吝笔墨,留下宝贵的阅评……批评、建议皆可,以令我以后的作品有更大进步……

      肉体可以消亡,但灵魂不会飞散……
      黑暗可能降临,但快乐永远不变……
      时间可以流逝,但记忆永存心间……
      时代可能终结,但史诗长久流传……
      物质可以湮灭,但能量得到新生……
      铁罐可能沉默,但注视不曾间断……

      陨落的梦想……残酷的世界……一切未曾改变……
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      其实感觉现在还有一个问题~~核辐射的问题日本那里到底有没有如实报道~貌似某星听谁说日本政府关于核辐射的问题并没有全部如实报道~(当然也可能是谣传~某星不怎么确定~)如果真的没有如实报道的话~情况可能还要严重....


      感叹一下...果然2012不是吹的么....
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      如果福岛核电站是快速中子增殖反应堆的话,估计菅内阁切腹也要保住吧,毕竟是少数人才拥有的高科技。
      唉!我以前在部队的时候真是高看日本自卫队了,把这种武装力量当敌人真是够丢人的……

      自卫队嘛,本身就不是正规军编制。日本现在名义上是没有正规军的。
      至于事先挖坑的做法然,实现起来可能非常困难,毕竟这里不是Tokyo-3。
      干脆直接把反应堆建在井里,一出事直接丫给埋了。
      貌似某星听谁说日本政府关于核辐射的问题并没有全部如实报道

      在现场Live的不仅有NHK,还有BBC、CNN、各种TV等等。
      而且盖格计数器也不贵,辐射剂量是不容易隐瞒的。
      最后编辑zhangtangyao 最后编辑于 2011-03-17 10:38:39
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      NEI消息更新:
      UPDATE AS OF 9:30 P.M. EDT, WEDNESDAY, MARCH 16:

      NEI has updated its YouTube channel with two more videos. The first addresses the U.S. industry's response to the events in Japan and the second discusses natural, safe forms of radiation.

      UPDATE AS OF 9:00 P.M. EDT, WEDNESDAY, MARCH 16:

      Crews began aerial water spraying operations from helicopters to cool reactor 3 at Fukushima Daiichi shortly before 9 p.m. EDT on Wednesday, March 16. The operation was planned for the previous day, but was postponed because of high radiation levels at the plant. News sources said temperatures at reactor 3 were rising. Each helicopter is capable of releasing 7.5 tons of water.

      Spokesmen for TEPCO and Japan’s regulatory agency, Nuclear and Industry Safety Agency, on March 17 Japan time refuted reports that there was a complete loss of cooling water in the used fuel pool at Fukushima Daiichi reactor 4.

      The spokesmen said the situation at reactor 4 has changed little during the day today and water remained in the fuel pool. However, both officials said that the reactor had not been inspected in recent hours.

      "We can’t get inside to check, but we’ve been carefully watching the building’s environs, and there has not been any particular problem," said TEPCO spokesman Hajime Motojuku.

      At about 7 p.m. EDT, NISA spokesman Takumi Koyamada said the temperature reading from the used fuel pool on Wednesday was 84 degrees Celsius and that no change had been reported since then. Typically, used uranium fuel rods are stored in deep water pools at temperatures of about 30 degrees Celsius.

      Recent radiation levels measured at the boundary of the Fukushima Daiichi plant have been dropping steadily over the past 12 hours, Japan's Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency said on Wednesday night (U.S. time).

      At 4 a.m. EDT on Wednesday, a radiation level of 75 millirem per hour was recorded at the plant's main gate. At 4 p.m. EDT, the reading at one plant site gate was 34 millirem per hour. By comparison, the Nuclear Regulatory Commission’s annual radiation dose limit for the public is 100 millirem. Radiation readings are being taken every 30 minutes.

      Japan’s Chief Cabinet Secretary, Yukio Edano, said earlier today a radiation level of 33 millirem per hour was measured about 20 kilometers from the Fukushima Daiichi plant earlier this morning. He said that level does not pose an immediate health risk.

      Edano said that TEPCO has resumed efforts to spray water into the used fuel pool at the damaged reactor 4.

      TEPCO also continues efforts to restore offsite power to the plant, with up to 40 workers seeking to restore electricity to essential plant systems by Thursday morning, March 17.


      UPDATE AS OF 7:30 P.M. EDT, WEDNESDAY, MARCH 16:

      NEI has added a new video to its YouTube page "NEI Offers Support to Japan." Also available is an updated schematic of the reactor design at Fukushima Daiichi.

      UPDATE AS OF 5:45 P.M. EDT, WEDNESDAY, MARCH 16:

      U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission Chairman Gregory Jaczko told members of Congress today that there is no water remaining in the fuel pool at reactor 4 at Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant. Jaczko told members of the House Energy and Commerce Committee that “we believe that secondary containment has been destroyed and there is no water in the spent fuel pool…radiation levels are extremely high, which could impact the ability to take corrective measures.”

      There is no updated information available from either Tokyo Electric Power or Japanese safety or regulatory officials on the status of the Fukushima plant. Japan's Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency said it also is concerned about the spent fuel storage pool at reactor 3 at the Fukushima Daiichi site.

      Also testifying before the House committee, Energy Secretary Steven Chu restated the administration's commitment to nuclear energy. “The American people should have full confidence that the United States has rigorous safety regulations in place to ensure that our nuclear power is generated safely and responsibly,” Chu testified. “Information is still coming in about the events unfolding in Japan, but the administration is committed to learning from Japan's experience as we work to continue to strengthen America's nuclear industry.

      “Safety remains at the forefront of our effort to responsibly develop America's energy resources, and we will continue to incorporate best practices and lessons learned into that process.” Chu said. “To meet our energy needs, the administration believes we must rely on a diverse set of energy sources, including renewables like wind and solar, natural gas, clean coal and nuclear power.”

      The administration and Nuclear Regulatory Commission on Wednesday said that they believe it is appropriate for U.S. residents within 50 miles of the Fukushima reactors to evacuate. In response to nuclear emergencies, the NRC works with other U.S. agencies to monitor radioactive releases and predict their path. All the available information continues to indicate Hawaii, Alaska, the U.S. Territories and the U.S. West Coast are not expected to experience any harmful levels of radioactivity.


      UPDATE AS OF 4:30 P.M. EDT, WEDNESDAY, MARCH 16:

      Japanese authorities have reported concerns today about the condition of the used nuclear fuel pools at Fukushima Daiichi reactor 3 and reactor 4.

      Officials also are preparing to spray water into reactor 4 from ground positions and possibly later into reactor 3. Some debris on the ground from the March 14 explosion at reactor 3 may need to be removed before the spraying can begin.

      Most plants store used fuel in steel-lined, concrete vaults filled with water, which acts as a natural barrier for radiation from the used fuel. The water also keeps the fuel cool while the radiation decays—or becomes less radioactive. The water itself does not leave the used fuel pool.

      Used nuclear fuel at the Fukushima Daiichi plant is stored in seven pools (one at each reactor and a shared pool) and in a dry container storage facility (containing nine casks).

      The used fuel pools are designed so that the water in the pool cannot drain down as a result of damage to the piping or cooling systems. The pools do not have drains in the sides or the floor of the pool structure. The only way to rapidly drain down the pool is to have structural damage of the walls or the floor.

      For more information on used fuel pools, see our new fact sheet, “Used Nuclear Fuel Storage at the Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Plant.”

      The U.S. government on Wednesday recommended that Americans within 50 miles of the Fukushima Daiichi plant evacuate the area. The Nuclear Regulatory Commission has posted this news release on its website regarding the evacuation recommendation.

      The information contained in NRC’s recent press release is new and industry is still evaluating the radiation dose calculations since there is little context for the numbers provided in the press release. On the surface, the estimated doses look to be extremely conservative, but we have no additional information on which to evaluate them.


      UPDATE AS OF 4:15 P.M. EDT, WEDNESDAY, MARCH 16:

      NEI has posted an updated version of its fact sheet "Used Nuclear Fuel Storage at the Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Plant." Also available are updated responses to frequently asked questions on the Japan nuclear energy situation.


      UPDATE AS OF 1:15 P.M. EDT, WEDNESDAY, MARCH 16:

      NEI has a new fact sheet called "Industry Taking Action to Ensure Continued Safety at U.S. Nuclear Energy Plants."


      UPDATE AS OF 10:00 A.M. EDT, WEDNESDAY, MARCH 16:

      News reports that high radiation levels led to the evacuation of all workers from the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power station are not accurate. Workers were evacuated for about an hour but returned to the site to continue efforts to restore safe conditions at the plant.

      Restoration of electrical power to the site was under way at the Daiichi plant as of 6:00 a.m. EDT Wednesday. A temporary cable was being connected between an off-site power line and Daiichi reactor 3. Off-site power has not been available at the site since the earthquake on March 11.

      Reactors 1, 2 and 3 at the plant are being cooled with seawater. There is some level of uranium fuel damage at all three units, and containment structure damage is suspected at reactor 2.

      Before the earthquake, reactor 4 had been in refueling and was completely defueled. Attempts to provide cooling water to the used fuel pool at reactor 4 by helicopter were not successful. Preparations are being made to inject water into the fuel storage pool using a high-capacity spray pump. There have been two fires inside the reactor containment building at reactor 4, but they have been extinguished. Although the reactor containment building at Unit 4 was damaged, the primary containment vessel remains intact.

      At the Fukushima Daini site, all four reactors are safely shut down and cooling functions are being maintained.
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      唉!我以前在部队的时候真是高看日本自卫队了,把这种武装力量当敌人真是够丢人的……

      以后建核电站可不可以在机组下面事先挖好一个深井,深度100米以上,井壁使用数米厚的混凝土加固,加固级别要远超陆基弹道导弹发射井,井底事先铺好足量的硼砂、铅块、白云石、粘土之类的东西,反应堆就悬空坐落在井上,由爆破螺栓固定。一旦出事,直接启动爆破螺栓,将反应堆整个降至井底,然后浇筑水泥等覆盖物掩埋。不知道如果这样
      老潜艇 发表于 2011/3/17 10:24:00

      好像會有熱核爆這样東西.......
      現在不停降溫就是為了 別讓第一層的鉻錫合金熔化 熔了就漏出輻射.....
      另外就是別讓燃料棒達到臨界點 這個好像會引起熱核爆
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        17F~
        放心,核电站的燃料棒浓度不足及引起链式反应~

        裂变和聚变是不同的,核反应堆和原子弹都是裂变反应,氢弹才是聚变,也就是所谓的热核反应。
        氢弹本身爆炸后不产生什么有害污染,有害的只是作为起爆弹芯的原子弹留下的,所以说氢弹很干净。
        如果实在不行,还不如给福岛一发赫鲁晓夫,加速有害物质的氧化、衰变……

        另:日本自卫队,就这种表现,下辈子也别想升级成国防军……
        [FLY]欢迎大家光临罐头馆……这里有美丽的……永不消逝的金属光泽……漫天飞舞的炮弹正等待着大家的到来……[/FLY]
        星之梦中篇同人文《命运之路》←点击阅读
        [MOVE]另:新作《AIP》锐意创作中……超级大作《Nuclearism~核之梦~》无限期拖延中……[/MOVE]
        请阅读完《命运之路》的朋友不吝笔墨,留下宝贵的阅评……批评、建议皆可,以令我以后的作品有更大进步……

        肉体可以消亡,但灵魂不会飞散……
        黑暗可能降临,但快乐永远不变……
        时间可以流逝,但记忆永存心间……
        时代可能终结,但史诗长久流传……
        物质可以湮灭,但能量得到新生……
        铁罐可能沉默,但注视不曾间断……

        陨落的梦想……残酷的世界……一切未曾改变……
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        回复 18# 老潜艇 的帖子

        喔 原來是這樣 但他们還是會怕堆芯爆炸.......

        老熊的大伊万? 這個已經不解決福島的問題-.-.....
        而是直接將日本解決了......周邊國家很多電子產品都要陪葬了.....
        韓國好像在運給日本硼酸來停止反應......
        如果不行 快要爆了 米國人應該會送給福島一顆氫彈吧@.@ 幫手停止反應
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          昨天重新增加到180人 七成人员可能会在2周内死亡   “我们不惧怕死亡,   这是我们的职责所在。”   —— 一名留守死士     福岛核电站的严重泄漏事故,是人类在切尔诺贝利事故后面临的又一场核灾难。目前,福岛核电站内800多工作人员大部分撤离,只剩下最后的50位死士。他们用自己的身体,筑起保护福岛核电站的最后一道屏障。 尽管核电站在16日继续出现险情,这50名工作人员一度被强行疏散,但随着辐射强度的下降,这些工人再次进入核电站,冒死进行注水工作。核防护专家指,这50人因长时间在强辐射条件下工作,其中70%的人员可能会在2周内死亡。 文字:记者李明波 最新动态 16日:他们短暂撤离后又重返岗位 16日上午,福岛第一核电站再次爆炸起火,导致核电站内辐射浓度超标严重,日本政府在16日上午10时40分左右下令撤离留守的50人。 日本内阁官房长官枝野幸男在16日早上进行的记者会上证实,福岛第一核电站第3号反应堆在当地时间16日上午10时许发生再次爆炸。他说,第3号反应堆爆炸时,产生了很高浓度的核辐射量,工人无法在现场作业。因此50名参加控制核反应堆的人员已离开现场,实行暂时避难。 16日下午,随着辐射强度的下降和空中注水的失败,地面注水再次成为日本当局的选择。福岛核电站的运营方东京电力公司下午宣布,这50名工人已重返工作岗位。 一位负责和这50名工人联络的日本官员告诉美国记者:“我的一位朋友就在他们其中,他们告诉我,这是他们的职责所在,他们不怕死。” 另据报道,东京电力公司先前将福岛核电站的工作人员从800人减少到50人,现在又重新增加到180人。哥伦比亚大学放射研究中心主任戴维·布伦纳说:“他们的情况不是很好,显然他们将遭到高浓度核辐射污染,并为此丧命。他们知道这一点,因此这些人是真正的英雄。” 认识他们 他们的构成: 多数年过50 姓名暂未透露 继福岛核电站的一号和三号机组爆炸后,二号机组又在15日晨发生爆炸。当时反应堆外的辐射量出现400毫西弗,吸入1000以上毫西弗的辐射量就足以令人出现呕吐头晕等症状。鉴于形势紧迫,东京电力公司迅速撤出了大部分员工。 据报道,福岛第一核电站地震前共有800人在内工作,在发生紧急状况后,只有50人在进行紧急操作。50人是维持核电站运作的最少人数,其余750人已因避免受到辐射而撤离。 东京电力公司留下的50人中,有20名是志愿留下的员工,有30名是指派的,大部分都在50岁以上。一位59岁老员工表示愿意用自己的生命,来换取更多人的安全。这位员工还有半年就退休,本可以拿上高额退休金,养老归田,但是他表示是“使命感让自己作出了这个决定”。 东京电力公司目前没有透露这50名死士的姓名,日本媒体称他们是无名英雄。 他们的任务: 为反应堆注水 防核燃料融化 日本媒体披露了这些留守人员的悲壮任务。他们需要向已经暴露的核燃料注入海水。这些核燃料一部分已经融化并释放出辐射物。如果全部融化,它们将释放出数千吨的辐射烟尘,危害到数百万人的生命安全。 由于福岛核电站的电源受到海啸破坏,核电站内部已经漆黑一片。但即使面对黑暗、辐射、海啸和地震的恐惧,他们仍需在核电厂内继续工作,不断为反应堆注入海水冷却。 在黑暗中,他们头戴呼吸器或者身背氧气筒,拿着手电筒穿过迷宫一般的设备,耳畔不断响起氢气与空气接触后爆炸的声音。虽然他们都穿着白色的连体衣,戴着紧身头罩,但这些仅能提供微不足道的辐射防护。 他们的未来: 未来两周之内 七成人或会死 据日本厚生劳动省介绍,每一名留守的工作人员都要受到100~250毫西弗的辐射,大约是美国核电站规定工作人员所受到最大辐射的5倍。据东京电力公司介绍,在核电站内一些可能有严重辐射的区域,每一位工作人员都是只工作几分钟,随后交给下一位工作人员继续,如此轮流,避免接触到太多的辐射。 东京电力公司并没有透露他们工作的电站内部有多少辐射量。核专家表示,内部辐射量要比外部的高。美国的核防护专家指出,留守工作人员中的70%可能会在2周内死亡。 历史知多D 切尔诺贝利大抢险 28人死于过量辐射 1986年,位于乌克兰的切尔诺贝利核电站发生爆炸,巨量的放射物质散发到空气当中,许多志愿者进入核电站,对反应堆进行封闭处理。3个月之后,他们当中的28人死于过量辐射,19人死于皮肤感染,106人患上了辐射病,多年后死于白血病或者其他血液癌症。 后来,切尔诺贝利在市中心为切尔诺贝利核电站抢险人员建立起纪念碑,碑文上写着:“献给拯救世界的人”。 鲜明对比 自卫队担心遭辐射 空中注水再次取消 中山网讯 在50位死士一度撤离后,东京电力公司一度考虑出动直升机在核电站上方撒放硼酸,日本自卫队却连续两天拒绝了政府命令。驻扎在仙台市霞目基地的陆上自卫队直升机部队,16日再次决定中止对福岛第一核电站第三号反应堆的空中洒水作业。 防卫省说,中止的原因是因为核电站上空的核辐射浓度太高,可能会危及参加洒水行动的自卫队员的健康。 日本政府救灾总部从15日开始,就要求自卫队出动直升机对核电站实施洒水行动,以降低不断爆发的第三号反应堆的温度,增加其冷却水量,以防止核反应堆爆炸。但自卫队一直持消极态度。16日下午,一度准备实施洒水。但是实施之前,派出的侦察机测出的核辐射浓度依然很高,于是决定再次取消洒水计划。 (李明波) “可怕的水,快逃!” 中山网讯 昨天,日本《读卖新闻》刊登了一名福岛第一核电站男性工作人员的口述实录。3月11日,他正在1号机组所在的建筑物内部工作。 当时,建筑物内部的电灯全部熄灭。尽管听到了“待在原地不要乱动”的指示,但我们看到顶部的金属管道相继发生了剧烈的晃动,水流不断涌出。“这可能是非常可怕的水,赶快逃吧!”不知是谁喊了一声,我们随即跑下楼梯,冲向位于一层的出口。 在一层,等待检测辐射的工作人员在狭长的走廊上排起了长队。随后,余震不断,大家纷纷怒吼:“快点!快点!” 我虽然没有遭受辐射,但一想到自己差点就关在那里面,至今仍惊魂未定。
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